Wednesday, April 09, 2008
Going back to Calley
For those of you who don't know, State Rep. Brian Calley sat in the "hot seat" with WOOD TV8's political reporter Rick Albin on last week's "To The Point." The main focus is Calley's "Kwame Bill" which would seek to make responsible sitting public officials, once they have been convicted of a crime, of any liability incurred by that municipality because of the official's wrong doing. I can't embed the video, so if you missed it and want to check it you have to click the link here.
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PW - the people have your number and it isn't 911. Everybody understands you and the trio plus self-centered motives. You were led down the primrose path like a bull with a ring in its nose by DARling barney and a disgruntled employee who we all worked with. Now you are trying to blame Mr. Young, the person you fired for printing the truth about you. The hard working people of our dept. and the taxpayers are suffering financially because of you and DARling barneys damnation and manipulation of the facts.
At least David Young has the interity to give his name and show his handsome mug on his blog, even if we don't always agree on what he has to say.
In the past you've attacked and tried to malnipulate State Reps. bender, geiger, newell and now calley. What's wrong are you P.O'ed because you don't know right from wrong or is it because you have control, jealously and integrity issues? We see right through you and your bedfellow DARling barney and the trio plus. Have you forgotten the Four-Way test?
Bulwark=bulsh*t. You're an idiot for thinking the publisher of a newspaper would need to start an "anonymous" blog to get his opinion out. And if you're such a fan of real names then why not sign on under yours? Who is suffering and why? Because we have a problem with illegal/unethical payments "under the table" with tax dollars?
TS, maybe you should ask Calley your questions and quit boring us with the same old shit- maybe you should expand your scope...
you are correct PW, you don't have to post your picture on this blog. your virulent spewing, temper tantrums and swearing clearly paints your picture for you.
We've observed you far to often in the office and out in the plant when you don't get your way with the brothers. keep it up, it would be shocking if you changed now and be very thankful that your respected parents gave you a job.
Bul and TS - maybe pw is subconciously admiting something when he said "you're an idiot for thinking the publisher of a newspaper would need to start an "anonymous" blog to get his opinion out."
Fact is, bona fided or legitimate newspapers publish accurate, complete, and logical stories in their papers. Professionals and skilled reporters don't have a need to massage their own egos by contriving, fabricating and bullying readers with empty and slanted words. pw you can sing to the choir, but your repretition and suspect dual personality traits preceed you. The people only have to read your rude slimballish opinions or this blog and they see exactly what your motives are - control and malnipulation". We agree, you finally painted your own picture and it mirrors the likes of detroit mayor kwame kilpatrick, hillary clinton and the trio plus.
I cannot get the tv8 link to load.
But...
Maybe Mr. Calley would like to answer a question about his new law.
I know he has come here before, and I hope that maybe he still checks in from time to time.
Could such a law also be used on a sitting member of government, that passed legislation found later in the courts to be illegal andt was proven to have caused a financial loss for a city, or the state as a whole? If so wouldn't that turn what may be a feel good law into a weapon to be used by partisan politics?
As a member of the Republican party. A party that continues to damn trial lawyers for frivolous litigation, do you see the pitfalls of such a law?
I am not sure if I agree with this law or not, and look forward to hearing these questions answered.
TS:
How many payoffs (aka "under the table payments") did you give 911 employees that were in your good graces? How much of the taxpayer's money did you waste?
According to some estimates I have seen, it pales in comparison to the monies the court clerks recently embezzled.
If that is the case Jay, why is it that the latter reported case has resulted in criminal charges and the former is still "under investigation."
Now onto the real topic of this thread,
PW- I watched a good portion of the Calley interview with Rick Albin. Albin makes a good point in that this legislation, if passed, would allow for some means of recovery for fiscal losses to municipalities yet what public official would possibly have a bank roll large enough for that recovery ever to happen.
I think highly of Rep Calley and think he presented himself rather well. It seems that this would cost more taxpayer money to present the case, win a judgement that would in all likelihood never be collectable
It just seems to me that there are so many ways for such a law to be misused. Rather than fixing the problem, it may cause more.
Maybe the answer is on the front end. Something like limiting the ability of government employees to be able to write checks without proper oversight. Regardless of your feelings of guilt or innocence (in whatever case we could be discussing here) it would be far simpler to be able to stop loss if the ability to unilaterally write a check was taken away.
Bureaucracy is so often given a bad name, but it is only because it silently quells the ability of corruption. Cost of bureaucracy may well have dwarfed that of the loss (again.. in any case we are talking about here). More so, if time and money in the judicial system, is then forced to go on infinitum with a law such as Mr. Calley's.
My father always taught me that if there is no opportunity allowed, you will not have to question someones guilt, or innocence. Thus freeing you up to work with people, instead of constantly having to be on guard of their intentions.
le bebe - it is very distressing that a person of the cloth would beat up the messengers of truth and then defend DARling barney and the hastings paper who have been less than candid with the public. As barneys intimate and faithful counselor why don't you get the answers to the many unanswered questions that have been raised?
Just the other night we were told by a patrol that DARling barney said his possy members look better that his deputies. Now that's a put down and very demeaning to his class a deputies. DARling barney was the one who authorized the wearing of the unprofessional looking baseball and wool hats, high heel swat boots and fatigue costumes.
As for your comment that true professionals like sheriffs Wood and Deboer, did not have 100% public support, you may be right. We've been told that DARling barney filed a frivolus law suit against Sheriff Deboer that cost our taxpayers thousands of dollars and it was swiftly thrown out by the courts.
As for DARling barney and his uncle leslie, we think Bulmalarky as you call him, makes a legitimate and very wise comparison of the two. Their backward, counterproductive, thoughtless and blind idea of moving the 911 to DARling barneys jail would cut off a legitmate and positive life line for the people of our county and endanger the lives of our public safety hero's. We've also heard from ex members of the board that Ag3, judy wooer and timmie allen are all part of this absurd solid waste thinking.
With your cozy connection with DARlings barneys buddies and the trio plus, would you now get accurate and legitimate responses to all the unanswered questions that have been raised and cut the bul. Or are you going to hide behind the parishioner / preacher relationship, which of course is respectable.
Does any one know who is defending Leaf and Evan? If the Judge says they don't have immunity because they were not acting as sheriff and prosecutor, then should the county and taxpayers be defending them?
Maude good question you rise. The malicious calamity would never have happened if the trio plus would have first investigated the fabricated and deceitful tales given to them by the disgrundled employee. Again I suggest all taxpayers go to the clerks office and get a copy of the law suit. Before nastys ever filed his law suit, the angry ex jail clerk-dispatcher was hatching her smear campaign to discredit him. When she worked at the jail she emitted the same appalling and wicked attitude. DARling barney was a deputy at the time and evans was the just fired ex-prosecutor when she gave them the conjured-up and factless stories. The newspaper then jumped into the smear campaign hook line and sinker by turning a deaf ear by failing to investigate the entire story.
Since then our dept. has gone down hill and our people and the taxpayers have been paying for trio's witch-hunt and the dumbing down of our county. We shouldn't be held financially liable for the tactless lack of judgment of DARling barney and evans.
Bul - you got to be kidding. you mean the trio plus have regaling us with factless tales and swatlike adventures to divert our attention away from the actual truth. What sickens the old man and me is the fact they think the public are a bunch of mouth breathers who are gullible and mindless. We support the class a deputies and local hero's who defend us every day. It appears like the courts see right through their non-sense of jail junkets and witchs hunts. And also thanks for sharing the news, we don't get the paper here. Did you ever get the answers to your many questions. As we said before, you are class a.
le bebe % pw - you can justify and divert all you want, but please start spewing the whole story, all the facts and complete truth. The fact is, DARling barney has taken our department in the wrong direction with HIS cronyism, nepotism, black belt story book mentality, and self-rightous media fairy tales. That isn't diversion, its factual. Why wouldn't anyone not answer the many questions that have been raised? Everytime barney evades or burys the whole truth, he points a finger at others. Doesn't he understand that he has four fingers pointing right back at himself. Why has DARling barney allowed the trio plus, jay the janitor, tim allen, his uncle leslie, barb cichey, pw, ag3, denny mckelvey and you bebe, run our department? To keep it short, DARling barney lacks leadership courage, education, knowledge and common sense. The proof is indeed in the puddin !!!
ONE MORE "FAIR" QUESTION that you and pw can expound on. What defense, justification or rational does DARling barney have in driving the county car to HIS civil suit in Charlotte? As I read it, the civil suit was filed against him, not the sheriff or the people of our county. Maybe he had to pick up his son at school or go to Walmart after the hearing.
Bul: I don't tell Dar or anyone else what to do. I think you need to find a better hobby. This one of ranting and raving is getting pretty old.
He post that same paragragh in a few other spots. It is the same harrassment they accuse everyone else of Truthseeker, Maude, and Bulwark can not make their own blog site, because nobody would read it. That or the 2 minute process is too complicated.
TheDarkSide said...
If that is the case Jay, why is it that the latter reported case has resulted in criminal charges and the former is still "under investigation."
The answer could be as simple as the fact that as director, Chuckie had the "authority" to make unathorized payments and that the members of the 911 board were too corrupt or incompetant to tell him he couldn't, while the others were simply clerks who stole money that clearly they had no authority to take.
OK, I love that TS and others continue to defend someone who STEPPED DOWN. Charlie QUIT!!!! So if he was so innocent, why did he take the CHICKENSH*T way out? If I'm innocent, the last thing I do is step down and give the impression that I was admitting my guilt. Nystrom walked because he knew the payments to only some employees were wrong and he was never able to defend that. Now he's filing frivolous lawsuits and threatening to sue others (in case anyone was still wondered where that OTHER Barry County blog went to). So, if poor Charlie got such a raw deal then why did he throw in the towel? After all, the investigation "cleared" him, right????? To quit and then turn around and spam this blog about the supposed waste of taxpayer money in the investigation is a JOKE.
bebe & pw you evade the truth when you continue to slander the 911 board and nasty and fail to honestly answer the many questions raised pertaining to DARlings barneys lack of leadership.
The good people here have faith that the courts will continue to search out the whole truth and it is evident they (courts) have started the pursuit. Ultimately everybody will clearly see what the angry-disgruntled employee; DARling barney; the newspaper; and the prosecutors real motives were and continue to be.
The sick part to this whole witch hunt is that it has cost our department and the taxpayers more than just money. It has been a selfish and degrading waste of time and energy. The morale here is the lowest it has ever been and DARling barney only answer is, if don't like it we can quit. That ISN'T leadership but is a kin to malfeasance. Jay, pw, bebe you are not doing the people any favors with your trash talk. Be patient, the courts will ferret out the whole truth.
I never once said anything about the 911 board...if you find it please quote it. I have asked you many questions you never answer so touche!
I would dare say what it cost the taxpayers to investigate this incident of Nystrom "giving out" bonus monies without proper approval was cheaper to investigate now rather than in 10 years after his "giving" Id rather pay now rather than later thank you.
Why are you not concerned with all the other monies officials, the government, misuses?
If you agree that Nystrom was ok in "giving" why are you then upset about your lunch money, or how you say the Sheriff and Prosecutor use time or cars, or your accusations of Jay? If you defend Nystroms actions, then surely you agree with the rest.
Also, the local paper, local radio, and the GR, and Battle Creek, ALL reported the story as was given.
So answer that, and I will seek out what you are looking for, even though you have been told where to find it.
bebe - never defended anyone, just asked several questions that have never been answered or publicly addressed. I will tell you though, there has been some internal results here and that is a start.
As for the local paper and radio, you're not comparing apples to apples. Never read anything about the courts recent decision in the local paper. I would think a man of the cloth would wonder too?
Now you promised.... please get answers to the rest of the questions without making excuses or exhausting smoke screens. Be patient, we trust the whole story will come out in court.
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